Change in mute behavior in notifications #1368

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opened 2025-03-18 14:02:40 +00:00 by meowski · 5 comments
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Environment info

  • Browser, version, OS, platform: Firefox/Linux
  • Instance URL:
  • Frontend version (see settings -> about): 83189d9d
  • Backend version (see settings -> about): 2.9.1
  • Browser extensions (ublock, rikaichamp etc):
  • Known instance/user customizations (i.e. pleromafe mods/forks, instance styles etc)

Bug description & reproduction steps

there's something going on with pleroma notifications since 2.9. if you have anyone on a thread muted, notifs don't appear for replies, even if the reply is from someone you follow that isn't muted.

"hide muted threads" changes this behavior. the weird thing is this doesn't apply to muted users in the main timeline, only notifs. thread mutes used to be different from user mutes so this is unexpected. they used to be handled separately

Bug seriousness

  • How annoying it is: moderately
  • How often does it happen:
  • How many people does it affect: everyone
  • Is there a workaround for it: uncheck "hide muted threads" in prefs
# Environment info <!-- Everything is optional and where applicable but the more information the better. --> * Browser, version, OS, platform: Firefox/Linux * Instance URL: * Frontend version (see settings -> about): 83189d9d * Backend version (see settings -> about): 2.9.1 * Browser extensions (ublock, rikaichamp etc): * Known instance/user customizations (i.e. pleromafe mods/forks, instance styles etc) # Bug description & reproduction steps there's something going on with pleroma notifications since 2.9. if you have anyone on a thread muted, notifs don't appear for replies, even if the reply is from someone you follow that isn't muted. "hide muted threads" changes this behavior. the weird thing is this doesn't apply to muted users in the main timeline, only notifs. thread mutes used to be different from user mutes so this is unexpected. they used to be handled separately # Bug seriousness <!-- Everything is optional and free-form --> * How annoying it is: moderately * How often does it happen: * How many people does it affect: everyone * Is there a workaround for it: uncheck "hide muted threads" in prefs
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There is an issue that notifications from muted users still appear in notifications until you click on their avatar

There is an issue that notifications from muted users still appear in notifications until you click on their avatar
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@lambadalambda were there any changes related to muting in backend 2.9.1?

@lambadalambda were there any changes related to muting in backend 2.9.1?
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more detailed explanation copied from timeline discussion w Lain:

it's a change in the display of posts that contain muted users. if you receive a reply from a user you follow (who isn't muted), but there is any other user you have muted tagged in that reply, it won't show up in your notifs.

also now muted user notifs are completely hidden in notifs, rather than being collapsed like they were previously.

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the only way to change this behavior is unselect "hide muted theads" but obviously, that un-hides all muted threads. basically since something changed in the handling of mutes, it would be nice to have this as a separate option to hide posts from muted users.

i prefer the old way of displaying them in a collapsed state (single line) because i used to use mutes as "maybe i'll get to it later but don't want untagged porn showing up in my TL" rather than "hide everything from this user" which is more like a block

here are my settings (after unselecting "hide muted threads" the notifs show up again, but i do still like having the mute threads functionality separate from hide muted users)

Screenshot_at_2025-03-18_12-08-35

so i guess to put it another way, the issue is if you have "hide muted threads" selected it also unexpectedly hides all notifs where any muted user is tagged

more detailed explanation copied from timeline discussion w Lain: it's a change in the display of posts that contain muted users. if you receive a reply from a user you follow (who isn't muted), but there is any other user you have muted tagged in that reply, it won't show up in your notifs. also now muted user notifs are completely hidden in notifs, rather than being collapsed like they were previously. ... the only way to change this behavior is unselect "hide muted theads" but obviously, that un-hides all muted threads. basically since something changed in the handling of mutes, it would be nice to have this as a separate option to hide posts from muted users. i prefer the old way of displaying them in a collapsed state (single line) because i used to use mutes as "maybe i'll get to it later but don't want untagged porn showing up in my TL" rather than "hide everything from this user" which is more like a block here are my settings (after unselecting "hide muted threads" the notifs show up again, but i do still like having the mute threads functionality separate from hide muted users) ![Screenshot_at_2025-03-18_12-08-35](/attachments/c483631a-e2c9-4dfe-9cb3-a0d72ae68409) so i guess to put it another way, the issue is if you have "hide muted threads" selected it also unexpectedly hides all notifs where any muted user is tagged
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This is incredibly weird, my only guess that posts of muted users also get thread_muted property? or do the muted thread just not generate notifications? @lambadalambda

This is incredibly weird, my only guess that posts of muted users also get `thread_muted` property? or do the muted thread just not generate notifications? @lambadalambda
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actually, i just noticed another reply by a muted user who replied to one of my posts, and their reply showed up in my timeline (collapsed) but didn't show up in my notifs. so what i said above must have been a fluke, or there's something else going on here. the reply with multiple users (by a follower) that i referenced earlier showed up in notifs after unselecting the "hide muted threads" setting.

at any rate the behavior has definitely changed since upgrading to 2.9. my activities visibility index is large but it does seem to be working otherwise, and i'm not seeing any db errors.

actually, i just noticed another reply by a muted user who replied to one of my posts, and their reply showed up in my timeline (collapsed) but didn't show up in my notifs. so what i said above must have been a fluke, or there's something else going on here. the reply with multiple users (by a follower) that i referenced earlier showed up in notifs after unselecting the "hide muted threads" setting. at any rate the behavior has definitely changed since upgrading to 2.9. my activities visibility index is large but it does seem to be working otherwise, and i'm not seeing any db errors.
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